SERMONS

PRE-OR-POST TRIBULATION RAPTURE?

By Min. Thomas J. Allen, Saturday Jul, 19 2014



For sometime now, I've been watching the media, and Christian ministries, posting sermons and videos about the rapture, with back and forth arguments for and against the Pre-Tribulation Rapture scenario. So which interpretation is the correct one? God is not a God of Confusion (1 Cor. 14:33). I do know from my years of biblical study that God's word speaks for itself, and the bible does state that we all be tested before any reward is offered as the following scripture states.


CHAPTER 1 - THE TESTING

Isaiah 17:6, "Yet gleaning grapes shall be left in it, as the shaking of an olive tree, two or three berries in the top of the uppermost bough, four or five in the outmost fruitful branches thereof, saith the Lord God of Israel."
Isaiah 24:13, "When thus it shall be in the midst of the land among the people, there shall be as the shaking of an olive tree, and as the gleaning grapes when the vintage is done."
Job 15:33, "He shall shake off his unripe grape as the vine, and shall cast off his flower as the olive."
James 4:4, "Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy of God."

So the scriptures show us a worldwide testing taking place to everyone. But what will this test consist of?


What Kind Of Testing?

The following scriptures shows us what test is applied to each one of us. This test is not just a test for the last days, but a test for people in their individual lives throughout their generations. However this test will also be linked to the last days. There are two groups of people that Christ stated in John 8:44, and in the last days these two groups will be at war with each other as stated in Genesis 3:15, and Matthew 13:25-30. The test of Christ is so simple, that many will fail to see the complete easy yoke of Christ as he stated in Matthew 11:30. The following scriptures shows us the test that is in place, as well as the free will of us to choose to pass this test as an individual choice. But even though this test is simple, it is a very important choice that will result in life or death.

Joshua 24:27, "And Joshua said unto all the people, Behold, this stone shall be a witness unto us; for it hath heard all the words of the Lord which he spake unto us: it shall be therefore a witness unto you, lest ye deny your God."

The above statement from Joshua foretell's the stone which is Christ our Lord whom will appear in the world as our savior, repeating the word of salvation from the Father, to all who will hear as stated in Matthew 13:13-16. We also find that it is Satan, which is at the head of the accusations and trials against us, not God, in order for Satan to point his finger in condemnation against the Father for making us in His own image as a mistake. The following scriptures shows Satan mocking God, and telling him to destroy Job, to prove that he will curse God and fail the test by denying God.

Job 1:8-12, "And the Lord said unto Satan, Hast thou considered my servant Job, that there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil? Then Satan answered the Lord, and said, Doth Job fear God for nought? Hast not thou made an hedge about him, and about his house, and about all that he hath on every side? thou hast blessed the work of his hands, and his substance is increased in the land. But put forth thine hand now, and touch all that he hath, and he will curse thee to thy face. And the LORD said unto Satan, Behold, all that he hath is in thy power; only upon himself put not forth thine hand. So Satan went forth from the presence of the LORD."
Job 2:3-7, "And the Lord said unto Satan, Hast thou considered my servant Job, that there is none like him in the earth, a perfect and an upright man, one that feareth God, and escheweth evil? and still he holdeth fast his integrity, although thou movedst me against him, to destroy him without cause. And Satan answered the Lord, and said, Skin for skin, yea, all that a man hath will he give for his life. But put forth thine hand now, and touch his bone and his flesh, and he will curse thee to thy face. And the LORD said unto Satan, Behold, he is in thine hand; but save his life. So went Satan forth from the presence of the LORD, and smote Job with sore boils from the sole of his foot unto his crown."

So it seems the test of all living humans from God is about accepting or denying Him. Of course, Job passed the test of God to Satan's dismay. We also read.

Proverbs 30:9, "Lest I be full, and deny thee, and say, Who is the Lord? or lest I be poor, and steal, and take the name of my God in vain."

In the New Testament we see Christ repeating this test to all who heard Him.

Matthew 10:33, "But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven."
Matthew 16:24-26, "Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me. For whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it. For what is a man profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and lose his own soul? or what shall a man give in exchange for his soul?"

We read also in Matthew 4:9, that Satan asked Christ to deny the Father by bowing down and worshiping Satan, in return for the riches and glory of the world. As a prime example of failing the Lord's test, is when Peter denied Jesus three times to those who accused him of being one of Jesus' disciples. Christ in His mercy, not condemning Peter, but tells him of this failure to take place. This will be an example to us all who study Christ's words of salvation today.

Matthew 26:34, "Jesus said unto him, Verily I say unto thee, That this night, before the cock crow, thou shalt deny me thrice."
Matthew 26:75, "And Peter remembered the word of Jesus, which said unto him, Before the cock crow, thou shalt deny me thrice. And he went out, and wept bitterly."

This is why Christ, after His resurrection, asked Peter three times, "Lovest thou me?" in John 21:15-17.


Testing Outcome!

The outcome of this test is simple, there are two paths, a narrow path and a broad path.

John 6:28-29, "Then said they unto him, What shall we do, that we might work the works of God? Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent."
John 3:14-15, "And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the Son of man be lifted up: That whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have eternal life."

Sadly, the whole world chooses the broad path, due to Satan's worldly entertainment. His goal is to take all human minds off of Christ and His salvation, wither it be movies, music, hollywood idols, sports and sports idols, etc.

Mark 4:18-19, "And these are they which are sown among thorns; such as hear the word, And the cares of this world, and the deceitfulness of riches, and the lusts of other things entering in, choke the word, and it becometh unfruitful."
Matthew 7:13-14, "Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat: Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it."

But Christ knowing this would happen, leaves us this final warning about ignoring all, to immerse themselves in Satan's dying kingdom and his ungodly entertainment.

Luke 21:34, "And take heed to yourselves, lest at any time your hearts be overcharged with surfeiting, and drunkenness, and cares of this life, and so that day come upon you unawares."


CHAPTER 2 - WHO OR WHAT IS THE BRIDE OF CHRIST?

I've also heard many well known pastors argue the Pre-Tribulation Rapture as fact, due to this reasoning of interpretation, and I quote, "We the people are the bride of Christ, because, God will not leave His bride in the Tribulation as to say, He will beat up his bride, then return, and say let's go to dinner!" While I can see their reasoning to this, and for sometime, I admit, I thought this was true from hearing many preach this interpretation. That we may in fact be the bride that Christ will return for. That is, until I decided to research it for myself in God's final word. What I found written in the bible was opposite to what many well known pastors preach today. The bible states that we are not the bride of Christ, but rather the friends, and guests, of the bridegroom who if worthy are invited to the wedding in the last day. The bride of Christ as the bible states is in fact something totally different then what we hear many preach today. I am worried where they are getting this interpretation from? Here are scriptures that states what I found as a fact.

Matthew 9:15, "And Jesus said unto them, Can the children of the bridechamber mourn, as long as the bridegroom is with them? but the days will come, when the bridegroom shall be taken from them, and then shall they fast." Also stated in Mark 2:19 Luke 5:34.
Luke 12:4, "And I say unto you my friends, Be not afraid of them that kill the body, and after that have no more that they can do."
John 3:29, "He that hath the bride is the bridegroom: but the friend of the bridegroom, which standeth and heareth him, rejoiceth greatly because of the bridegroom's voice: this my joy therefore is fulfilled."

John the baptist calls himself the friend of the bridegroom, who hears the bridegroom's voice. Why did John not say, the bride hears the voice of the bridegroom? Lets read this next passage, that also states we are His friends, and not His bride.

John 15:14-15, "Ye are my friends, if ye do whatsoever I command you. Henceforth I call you not servants; for the servant knoweth not what his lord doeth: but I have called you friends; for all things that I have heard of my Father I have made known unto you."

So Christ Himself calls us His friends, not His bride. Even if he did not call us His friends, why would He call His bride a servant? So if we are not the bride of Christ, who, or what, is the bride? Lets read the next scriptural passage.

Revelation 21:2-3, "And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven, prepared as a bride adorned for her husband. And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying, Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men, and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people, and God himself shall be with them, and be their God."

So, here it states what the bride really is. Its not the Church, or as Christ calls us His friends, but rather the holy city given by the Father adorned in all glory for Christ. Here is another passage stating the holy city is the bride.

Revelation 21:9, "And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying, Come hither, I will shew thee the bride, the Lamb's wife. And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that great city, the holy Jerusalem, descending out of heaven from God, Having the glory of God: and her light was like unto a stone most precious, even like a jasper stone, clear as crystal; And had a wall great and high, and had twelve gates, and at the gates twelve angels, and names written thereon, which are the names of the twelve tribes of the children of Israel."

So this sums up the mis-interpretation by many, that we are the bride of Christ. It is even stated, that we will be His people, not His bride. If we study the book of Isaiah, we read that Christ will clothe us, who are worthy to be invited to the wedding feast with garments of salvation.

Isaiah 61:10, "I will greatly rejoice in the Lord, my soul shall be joyful in my God; for he hath clothed me with the garments of salvation, he hath covered me with the robe of righteousness, as a bridegroom decketh himself with ornaments, and as a bride adorneth herself with her jewels."

So we are clothe by Christ to attend the wedding, and the holy city is the wife / bride that Christ receives from the Father. The next passage also states that later on, people will even ask Christ about His wounds on His hands. Christ's reply, due to His friends, not His bride.

Zechariah 13:6, "And one shall say unto him, What are these wounds in thine hands? Then he shall answer, Those with which I was wounded in the house of my friends."

So the holy city is the bride adorned for Christ by the Father. We are his friends, that if worthy, are called and invited to the wedding feast as we read in Matthew 22:2-14.

Luke 21:36, "Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man."


CHAPTER 3 - PRE-OR-POST TRIBULATION RAPTURE:

To be fair to the Pre-Tribulation rapture supporters, I will post their arguments in this chapter. Many will argue, and some even with vile, as I have read against others, calling them who do not agree scripturally as heretics, which means a person believing in or practicing religious heresy. I found this kind of weird. If the bible which states in black and white that Tribulation must come to all followers of Christ (Acts 14:22), how is this heresy? We will get into those passages shortly, but to be fair, let's show the passages they claim prove the Pre-Tribulation Rapture.

Here is a quote from a website I recently found on this topic. Quote: "Our Lord Jesus Christ taught that He might come back at any time, suddenly, imminently, without any notice or signs. The most important characteristic of Christ's return is that it could happen without warning, suddenly, catching us off guard if we're not faithfully serving our Master. The Lord told us to watch, because He might come back at any time, suddenly. For anyone to teach that the Rapture cannot happen until after the 7-year Tribulation period is blatant heresy. There's absolutely no way that the Rapture could happen after the Tribulation. There are numerous reasons. The following passage of Scripture 100% proves the Pre-tribulation return of Christ…" End Quote.

The passages they showed was:

Mark 13:32-37, "But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father. Take ye heed, watch and pray: for ye know not when the time is. For the Son of man is as a man taking a far journey, who left his house, and gave authority to his servants, and to every man his work, and commanded the porter to watch. Watch ye therefore: for ye know not when the master of the house cometh, at even, or at midnight, or at the cockcrowing, or in the morning: Lest coming suddenly he find you sleeping. And what I say unto you I say unto all, Watch."
Matthew 24:42-44, "Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come. But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up. Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh."

But, if they would of read verses 29-30, they would have read that verses 42-44 takes place after the Tribulation.

Matthew 24:29-30, "Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory."

They also list a verse from Daniel.

Daniel 12:1, "And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book."

But again, they fail to preach the next verse which shows the final judgement, not a period of time which the world continues for seven years.

Daniel 12:2, "And many of them that sleep in the dust of the earth shall awake, some to everlasting life, and some to shame and everlasting contempt."

We also have to note that there is a difference between Tribulation and Wrath. Many will argue that we will not go through any tribulation, but what does Tribulation actually mean?


Difference Between Tribulation And Wrath

trib·u·la·tion (noun): tribulation; plural noun: tribulations

Meaning: a cause of great trouble or suffering. "the tribulations of being a megastar" or "his time of tribulation was just beginning"
synonyms: suffering, distress, trouble, misery, wretchedness, unhappiness, sadness, heartache, woe, grief, sorrow, pain, anguish, agony; a state of great trouble or suffering, trouble, difficulty, problem, worry, anxiety, burden, cross to bear, ordeal, trial, adversity, hardship, tragedy, sorrow, trauma, affliction.
Origin: Middle English: via Old French from ecclesiastical Latin tribulatio(n-), from Latin tribulare 'press, oppress,' from tribulum 'threshing board (constructed of sharp points),' based on terere 'rub.'

wrath (noun): wrath; plural noun: wraths

Meaning: extreme anger (chiefly used for humorous or rhetorical effect). "he hid his pipe for fear of incurring his father's wrath"
Synonyms: anger, rage, fury, outrage, spleen, vexation, (high) dudgeon, crossness, displeasure, annoyance, irritation.

Tribulation is defined as a cause of great trouble or suffering. We see this today with Christians being harassed, tormented, sued, banned from events, their bibles being banned from schools, and even being murdered all throughout the world for the testimony of Christ.

2 Corinthians 1:4, "Who comforteth us in all our tribulation, that we may be able to comfort them which are in any trouble, by the comfort wherewith we ourselves are comforted of God."

So I think the Pre-Tribulation supporters are confusing the two. Yes we will be saved from the Wrath of God, which is right before the Seventh Seal is opened, but not the Tribulation against us from the World.

Here are are the seals of God being opened and no one is taken till after the 6th seal is opened.


Revelation 6 & 7

First Seal: The Conqueror - Rev. 6:1-2, "And I saw when the Lamb opened one of the seals, and I heard, as it were the noise of thunder, one of the four beasts saying, Come and see. And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he that sat on him had a bow; and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth conquering, and to conquer."
Second Seal: Conflict on Earth - Rev. 6:3-4, "And when he had opened the second seal, I heard the second beast say, Come and see. And there went out another horse that was red: and power was given to him that sat thereon to take peace from the earth, and that they should kill one another: and there was given unto him a great sword."
Third Seal: Scarcity on Earth - Rev. 6:5-6, "And when he had opened the third seal, I heard the third beast say, Come and see. And I beheld, and lo a black horse; and he that sat on him had a pair of balances in his hand. And I heard a voice in the midst of the four beasts say, A measure of wheat for a penny, and three measures of barley for a penny; and see thou hurt not the oil and the wine."
Fourth Seal: Widespread Death on Earth - Rev. 6:7-8, "And when he had opened the fourth seal, I heard the voice of the fourth beast say, Come and see. And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth."
Fifth Seal: The Cry of the Martyrs - Rev. 6:9-11, "And when he had opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of them that were slain for the word of God, and for the testimony which they held: And they cried with a loud voice, saying, How long, O Lord, holy and true, dost thou not judge and avenge our blood on them that dwell on the earth? And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellowservants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled."
Sixth Seal: Cosmic Disturbances - Rev. 6:12-17, "And I beheld when he had opened the sixth seal, and, lo, there was a great earthquake; and the sun became black as sackcloth of hair, and the moon became as blood; And the stars of heaven fell unto the earth, even as a fig tree casteth her untimely figs, when she is shaken of a mighty wind. And the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; and every mountain and island were moved out of their places. And the kings of the earth, and the great men, and the rich men, and the chief captains, and the mighty men, and every bondman, and every free man, hid themselves in the dens and in the rocks of the mountains; And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb: For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?"
144,000 Are Sealed: Scattered Israel - Rev. 7:1-8, "And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree. And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea, Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads. And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel. Of the tribe of Juda were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Reuben were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Gad were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Aser were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Nepthalim were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Manasses were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Simeon were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Levi were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Issachar were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Zabulon were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Joseph were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Benjamin were sealed twelve thousand."
The Rapture: Takes Place After The Tribulation - Revelation 7:9-12, "After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands; And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb. And all the angels stood round about the throne, and about the elders and the four beasts, and fell before the throne on their faces, and worshipped God, Saying, Amen: Blessing, and glory, and wisdom, and thanksgiving, and honour, and power, and might, be unto our God for ever and ever. Amen."
Tribulation Confirmation: The Saved - Revelation 7:13-17, "And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they? And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him day and night in his temple: and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them. They shall hunger no more, neither thirst any more; neither shall the sun light on them, nor any heat. For the Lamb which is in the midst of the throne shall feed them, and shall lead them unto living fountains of waters: and God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes."

If we would not go through any tribulation in our lives by the world who hate us, then why are Christians suffering today as Christ told us we would? How come none of the Christians for example, in Iraq are being raptured at this very moment while they are being murdered, raped, and even their children being beheaded? When John was at Patmos, he said in Rev. 1:9, "I John, who also am your brother, and companion in tribulation". Why was he not raptured?

Matt. 24:21-22, "For then shall be great tribulation, such as was not since the beginning of the world to this time, no, nor ever shall be. And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened."

Tribulation, which is also persecution from the world will be so bad and the killing of Christians, that He will have to make the tribulation short, or none of the elect will survive. Thus he said there will be a remnant that will survive the persecution and tribulation from the world.

Romans 11:5, "Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace."
Revelation 11:13, "And the same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven."
Revelation 12:17, "And the dragon was wroth with the woman, and went to make war with the remnant of her seed, which keep the commandments of God, and have the testimony of Jesus Christ."

Here are many passages that are literal, not medaforacle that actually state we will go through tribulation here on earth.

Matt. 13:21, "Yet hath he not root in himself, but dureth for a while: for when tribulation or persecution ariseth because of the word, by and by he is offended."
John 16:33, "These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world."
John 16:33, "These things I have spoken unto you, that in me ye might have peace. In the world ye shall have tribulation: but be of good cheer; I have overcome the world."
Acts 14:2, "Confirming the souls of the disciples, and exhorting them to continue in the faith, and that we must through much tribulation enter into the kingdom of God."
Rom. 5:3, "And not only so, but we glory in tribulations also: knowing that tribulation worketh patience."
Rom. 8:35, "Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword?"
Rom. 12:12, "Rejoicing in hope; patient in tribulation; continuing instant in prayer;"
2 Cor. 1:4, "Who comforteth us in all our tribulation, that we may be able to comfort them which are in any trouble, by the comfort wherewith we ourselves are comforted of God."
2 Cor. 7:4, "Great is my boldness of speech toward you, great is my glorying of you: I am filled with comfort, I am exceeding joyful in all our tribulation."
Eph. 3:13, "Wherefore I desire that ye faint not at my tribulations for you, which is your glory." <- This goes with Acts 14:2
1 Thess. 3:4, "For verily, when we were with you, we told you before that we should suffer tribulation; even as it came to pass, and ye know."
2 Thess. 1:4, "So that we ourselves glory in you in the churches of God for your patience and faith in all your persecutions and tribulations that ye endure."
Rev. 1:9, "I John, who also am your brother, and companion in tribulation, and in the kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was in the isle that is called Patmos, for the word of God, and for the testimony of Jesus Christ."
Rev. 2:10, "Fear none of those things which thou shalt suffer: behold, the devil shall cast some of you into prison, that ye may be tried; and ye shall have tribulation ten days: be thou faithful unto death, and I will give thee a crown of life."

After the 6th seal is opened and all hell breaks lose on earth, then the rapture happens which is before the 7th seal which is the wrath of God.

Rev. 7:14, "And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb."

Many will give you medaforacle passages to twist scriptures in order to prove their theological points. However, unless it actually says what they are relating it to, its all medaforacle, so they can say see, there ya go. But the verses above are literal with actual words saying tribulation, not medaforacle interpretation. So please, try to explain them away? Many will try and argue that it is the 144,000 saints. But sadly, it is not the 144,000 that many try to claim, because if they would read their bibles carefully, they would see the people who stand before the Lord is unnumbered...

Revelation 7:9, "After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands."

Now as for the term Wrath, which is the opposite of Tribulation, means vengeance or punishment as the consequence of anger. The wrath of God will be felt by the wicked when God decides its time to end everything.

John 3:36, "He that believeth on the Son hath everlasting life: and he that believeth not the Son shall not see life; but the wrath of God abideth on him."
Romans 5:8-9, "But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us. Much more then, being now justified by his blood, we shall be saved from wrath through him."

So we can already see that God will save us from the Wrath, not Tribulation from the world.

Colossians 3:6, "For which things' sake the wrath of God cometh on the children of disobedience:"
1 Thessalonians 5:9, "For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,"

Again, this verse shows we will be delivered from the Wrath of God.

Revelation 6:17, "For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?"
Revelation 16:1, "And I heard a great voice out of the temple saying to the seven angels, Go your ways, and pour out the vials of the wrath of God upon the earth."

So now we see the difference between Tribulation and Wrath.

Romans 12:12, "Rejoicing in hope; patient in tribulation; continuing instant in prayer."

Even John suffered tribulation in his own time,

Revelation 1:9, "I John, who also am your brother, and companion in tribulation, and in the kingdom and patience of Jesus Christ, was in the isle that is called Patmos, for the word of God, and for the testimony of Jesus Christ."
Acts 17:11, "These were more noble than those in Thessalonica, in that they received the word with all readiness of mind, and searched the scriptures daily, whether those things were so."
2 Timothy 4:2-4, "Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all longsuffering and doctrine. For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; And they shall turn away their ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables."
Matt. 4:4, "It is written, Man shall not live by bread alone, but by every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God."
Isaiah 28:10, "For precept must be upon precept, precept upon precept; line upon line, line upon line; here a little, and there a little."
Titus 1:9, "Holding fast the faithful word as he hath been taught, that he may be able by sound doctrine both to exhort and to convince the gainsayers."
Titus 2:1, "But speak thou the things which become sound doctrine"

I believe this will be a small part of the great falling away (2 Thess. 2:3) when everyone goes through their own tribulation. All those people who are making tons of $$$ on twisting the Word of God to sell Pre Rapture movies, books, and products, bringing people to fables and tales will be held accountable in the great Judgment (Matt. 7:21-27). Then the mockers will appear saying to the Pre Tribulation supporters:

2 Peter 3:3-4, "Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers, walking after their own lusts, And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation."


May God Bless you, your family, and keep you all safe from the coming storm.
You are all in my prayers daily.


Yours In Christ
Min. Thomas J. Allen

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